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Thanks for the link, it's more of a verification thing, to make sure they didn't mess any of the weapons up. The page is just temporary and will be merged into the regular Loot page in a week or two once it's mostly complete. --{{User:Tlosk/Sig}} 20:30, 24 February 2012 (PST)


== Wikia ==
Because we publish under an open license, there's nothing we can do to force Wikia to shut down their version if they don't want to, we've asked them several times in a couple of ways and basically it makes them money so they refuse. We go back and forth with them in search listings but one big advantage they have is they're such a large wiki farm that they have a lot of ingoing links that count towards SEO even though they are unrelated to their AC wiki. The best thing we can do is just remind people in /cg and on the forums whenever it comes up that they should use the current site. Not ideal but not much we can do about it. --{{User:Tlosk/Sig}} 07:55, 2 March 2012 (EST)
: That's lame... Oh well.  Is it possible to put a link on the front page of it to tell people about the new site, or even better, right in the header of the page? --[[User:Atarax|Atarax]] 03:10, 3 March 2012 (EST)
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'''Contracts'''


== Kill Tasks ==
Hey, Atarax. Just so you know, I added the contracts parameter to the quest template a while back so you can just list the contracts there now to keep the guides tidier. I thought they should be listed in the summary table as they are the standard for quest tracking now aren't they.  --[[User:Arkalor|Arkalor]] 06:33, 13 April 2012 (EST)
To be honest I am not a fan of the current naming for kill tasks. I Always thought they should either use the title as the quest name or go with some thing like Ebon Gromnie Kill Task. I don't even know who calls them hunter quests, I have always used and heard people use kill task. Once we get the quest guide done I was thinking about renaming and redoing all the kill tasks, or bringing the idea up anyway. So... do whatever you want with the wisp task. --[[User:An Adventurer|An Adventurer]] 11:36, 12 February 2009 (CST)
: Very cool thx.  I'll use that! --[[User:Atarax|Atarax]] 06:37, 13 April 2012 (EST)


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== Item Table ==
I checked a couple pages that use {{tl|Item Table}} and they seemed to be working ok, do you have a link to a specific page where the icons are off? --{{User:Tlosk/Sig}} 08:49, 18 August 2012 (EST)


It's a feature people have been asking for for a couple years now and as of 1.13 (the current release) still hasn't been added. 1.14RC1 was released a few days ago and I didn't notice any update on the issue in the notes but it's always possible it might get added by the time they get to the quarterly release. And I agree it's a pain. Here's a link to the discussion:
: Appears ok in Firefox, probably a rendering issue with Chrome, I will dig into it and see if I can come up with a solution. --{{User:Tlosk/Sig}} 15:36, 18 August 2012 (EST)


https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=709
== File Names ==
 
That would be true of any version of windows, file names have some characters that are restricted and are reserved for system use (/\:?"<>|). You'll get an error message if you try to rename a file using one of these in an explorer window, WST should give you an error message but I just didn't code one in (adding all possible error messages isn't trivial and so instead of having the program crash on unhandled exceptions and lose any work in progress I just have it fail at the task at hand and continue). Now because the wiki server is linux based it is possible to have files with for example : or ? in the name, and there's a rename box when uploading files that allow you to change the name from the actual file name, but I'd recommend avoiding it if at all possible, it makes it more difficult when backing up the files to a non Linux system. --{{User:Tlosk/Sig}} 11:10, 15 September 2012 (EST)
Edit: I missed something and am going to test it out, it may not work with our current version but it should work after the move to 1.14, will let you know in a minute.
 
Edit: No it doesn't work but it will after we upgrade.
 
--[[User:Tlosk|Tlosk]] 12:10, 11 February 2009 (CST)
 
== Bots ==
I can answer it for you. Bots are accounts that you can use to do minor repetitive edits. Bot edits do not show up on the recent changes by default, thus saving the recent changes from being cluttered up with the same minor edits. Bots can also be used to patrol for vandalism and such.
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bots
 
I dont actually have any software to automate my bot (tlosk might) but I do a lot of minor repetitive edits so I thought I could use a bot account.
--[[User:An Adventurer|An Adventurer]] 10:38, 3 February 2009 (CST)
 
 
 
I'm currently using custom scripts but after we upgrade to 1.14 we'll be able to use some of the utilities like the one you linked to. Our current version doesn't fully support the Bot API which is required (even though you can use AutoWikiBrowser with a nonbot account it still uses the API to function). If you'd like one also make an account and let me know. --[[User:Tlosk|Tlosk]] 17:37, 3 February 2009 (CST)
 
== Templates ==
That's a good idea, to avoid agreement issues (a/an etc) I made it so it just says "* <Name> Locations." and added it the creature template. As I'm going through the old creature entries and changing them I've come across quite a few that were either missing the plural name all together or weren't pluralized so this will make it a lot better.
 
You can use a variable more than once, what did you have in mind?--[[User:Tlosk|Tlosk]] 13:08, 23 January 2009 (CST)
 
:I started a central location to have ongoing discussions where we can discuss things directly or link to the talk page. --[[User:Tlosk|Tlosk]] 08:37, 24 January 2009 (CST)
::* [[Forum#Titles in Patch Page]]
::* [[Forum#Individual Creature Template]]
 
== Spells ==
<br>Unique spells like that can have their own page, marked as Category:Unlearnable Castable Spell. The only time that a unique quest only spell should redirect to a standard spell page is when it has an effect that can be seen to stack with or surpass regular spells. For example, there are many quest only cantrips (like on the living weapons, or the spear of purity) but these can be proven to stack or override standard spells and cantrips.
<br><br>So in short, most unique quest/item spells that mimic a life, creature, or item spell/cantrip will redirect to the appropriate page. Unique war and offensive life spells will have an individual page. And I think, for now at least, most of those special boss only debuffs should have unique pages, since many of them do not have a standard spell counterpart, and it is also rather difficult to find what standard debuffs they do stack with. --[[User:An Adventurer|An Adventurer]] 18:30, 19 December 2008 (CST)
 
== Dispels ==
I was thinking that all dispels (castable and on gems) would all have a unique spell pages. The castable versions would be tagged with category:spell and category:<school> spell. And then all would be tagged with category:Dispel. --[[User:An Adventurer|An Adventurer]] 16:11, 8 January 2009 (CST)
 
:My reasoning is that all the spells are named differently, and not <name> I, II, III, etc. But I suppose redirecting them will work, assuming they follow a pattern with spell comps/spell words. --[[User:An Adventurer|An Adventurer]] 16:56, 8 January 2009 (CST)
 
::Yeah looks like the castable+learnable dispels can be redirects like standard spells. --[[User:An Adventurer|An Adventurer]] 17:28, 8 January 2009 (CST)
 
:::The dispels look fine. Thanks for helping out on the redirects too. --[[User:An Adventurer|An Adventurer]] 14:06, 9 January 2009 (CST)
 
== Cantrips ==
I've started a [[Cantrip Template|cantrip template here]]. We'll use the talk page there to discuss improvements. --[[User:An Adventurer|An Adventurer]] 13:10, 23 January 2009 (CST)
 
:yes. All unique/set/quest only cantrips should redirect to the standard cantrip page for the stat they increase. --[[User:An Adventurer|An Adventurer]] 15:53, 28 January 2009 (CST)

Latest revision as of 09:06, 15 September 2012

Thanks for the link, it's more of a verification thing, to make sure they didn't mess any of the weapons up. The page is just temporary and will be merged into the regular Loot page in a week or two once it's mostly complete. --How often to wash makeup brushes? ,<a href=http://cheap-macmakeupor.webs.com/#38275>wholesale mac makeup</a> ,,http://clarisonicmia2us.webs.com/#18392 20:30, 24 February 2012 (PST)

Wikia

Because we publish under an open license, there's nothing we can do to force Wikia to shut down their version if they don't want to, we've asked them several times in a couple of ways and basically it makes them money so they refuse. We go back and forth with them in search listings but one big advantage they have is they're such a large wiki farm that they have a lot of ingoing links that count towards SEO even though they are unrelated to their AC wiki. The best thing we can do is just remind people in /cg and on the forums whenever it comes up that they should use the current site. Not ideal but not much we can do about it. --How often to wash makeup brushes? ,<a href=http://cheap-macmakeupor.webs.com/#38275>wholesale mac makeup</a> ,,http://clarisonicmia2us.webs.com/#18392 07:55, 2 March 2012 (EST)

That's lame... Oh well. Is it possible to put a link on the front page of it to tell people about the new site, or even better, right in the header of the page? --Atarax 03:10, 3 March 2012 (EST)

Contracts

Hey, Atarax. Just so you know, I added the contracts parameter to the quest template a while back so you can just list the contracts there now to keep the guides tidier. I thought they should be listed in the summary table as they are the standard for quest tracking now aren't they. --Arkalor 06:33, 13 April 2012 (EST)

Very cool thx. I'll use that! --Atarax 06:37, 13 April 2012 (EST)

Item Table

I checked a couple pages that use {{Item Table}} and they seemed to be working ok, do you have a link to a specific page where the icons are off? --How often to wash makeup brushes? ,<a href=http://cheap-macmakeupor.webs.com/#38275>wholesale mac makeup</a> ,,http://clarisonicmia2us.webs.com/#18392 08:49, 18 August 2012 (EST)

Appears ok in Firefox, probably a rendering issue with Chrome, I will dig into it and see if I can come up with a solution. --How often to wash makeup brushes? ,<a href=http://cheap-macmakeupor.webs.com/#38275>wholesale mac makeup</a>

,,http://clarisonicmia2us.webs.com/#18392 15:36, 18 August 2012 (EST)

File Names

That would be true of any version of windows, file names have some characters that are restricted and are reserved for system use (/\:?"<>|). You'll get an error message if you try to rename a file using one of these in an explorer window, WST should give you an error message but I just didn't code one in (adding all possible error messages isn't trivial and so instead of having the program crash on unhandled exceptions and lose any work in progress I just have it fail at the task at hand and continue). Now because the wiki server is linux based it is possible to have files with for example : or ? in the name, and there's a rename box when uploading files that allow you to change the name from the actual file name, but I'd recommend avoiding it if at all possible, it makes it more difficult when backing up the files to a non Linux system. --How often to wash makeup brushes? ,<a href=http://cheap-macmakeupor.webs.com/#38275>wholesale mac makeup</a> ,,http://clarisonicmia2us.webs.com/#18392 11:10, 15 September 2012 (EST)