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| Gouru is hard to get ahold of. I've sent him a few PMs on the turbine boards but he only responded to the first one, which was about the spam on the message board here, which has still not been taken care of. I've sent both him and maddy requests for admin powers here since neither of them are active on the wiki, but haven't heard anything back yet.
| | ''For older discussions, see [[Talk:Home/Archive]].'' |
| --[[User:An Adventurer|An Adventurer]] 15:32, 22 February 2008 (CST)
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| After reading the comments below about the Home image, I noticed that too, I made a quick image with what I believe are the proper dimensions and properly alpha'd background but I couldn't find a contact to send to, does anyone have contact info for Gouru? Here's the image if anyone has suggestions on improving it:
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| [[Image:ACCWikiHome.png]]
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| --[[User:Tlosk|Tlosk]] 15:28, 22 February 2008 (CST)
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| Coming to it with fresh eyes I find the current layout easier to quickly read. One suggestion I might make though would be to bold the couple that people click on the most (for example, quests, current patch, and dungeons?) --[[User:Tlosk|Tlosk]] 13:27, 22 February 2008 (CST)
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| So a week ago Thargos changed the layout of the topics section from horizontal to vertical. I personally don't like the new look, but that may just have been because I was used to the old set up. So here are the two styles side by side. What does everyone else think? Keep it as is? Go back to old style? or try something new?
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| '''Current:'''
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| <div style="-moz-border-radius: 10px;background-color:#f8f8f8; border:2px solid #e0e0e0;width:80%;padding:5px;margin-bottom:10px;margin-left:10%;margin-right:10%;-moz-outline-style: outset;-moz-outline-radius: 10px;-moz-outline-color: #e0e0e0;">
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| == '''Topics''' ==
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| {|align=center style="background:#f8f8f8" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="5"
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| !width="90" align=left|Patch Information
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| !width="90" align=left|Game Information
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| !width="90" align=left|Databases
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| !width="90" align=left|Items
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| !width="90" align=left|Magic
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| !width="90" align=left|Dereth
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| !width="90" align=left|Crafting
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| !width="90" align=left|Lore
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| | [[The Beast With Many Heads| Current Patch]] || [[General Information]] || [[Quests]] || [[Items]] || [[Spells]] || [[Locations]] || [[Alchemy]] || [[Lore | Lore - Main Page]]
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| | [[Recollections | Previous Patch]] || [[New Player Guide]] || [[Monsters]] || [[Weapons]] || [[Spell Components|Components]] || [[Towns]] || [[Cooking]] || [[List of Texts | Texts]]
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| | [[Patches | All Patches]] || | [[Returning Player Guide]] || [[NPCs]] || [[Armor]] || [[Magic Casters|Casters]] || [[Dungeons]] || [[Fletching]] || [[Factions]]
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| | [[History | AC History]] || | [[Plugins]] || [[Titles]] || [[Jewelry]] || [[Spells#Special Spells|Special Spells]] || [[Housing Settlements | Settlements]] || [[Tinkering]] || [[Current_Story_Arc_-_Monthly_Summary | Current Story Arc Summary]]
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| </div>
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| '''Previous:'''
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| <div style="-moz-border-radius: 10px;background-color:#f8f8f8; border:2px solid #e0e0e0;width:80%;padding:5px;margin-bottom:10px;margin-left:10%;margin-right:10%;-moz-outline-style: outset;-moz-outline-radius: 10px;-moz-outline-color: #e0e0e0;">
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| == '''Topics''' ==
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| {|align=center style="background:#f8f8f8" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="5"
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| ! Patch Information
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| | [[Recollections | Current Patch]]
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| | [[Children of the Prodigal Lord | Previous Patch]]
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| | [[Patches | All Patches]]
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| | [[History | AC History]]
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| !Game Information
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| | [[General Information]]
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| | [[New Player Guide]]
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| | [[Returning Player Guide]]
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| !Databases
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| | [[Quests]]
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| !Items
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| !Magic
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| | [[Spells]]
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| | [[Spell Components|Components]]
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| | [[Magic Casters|Casters]]
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| | [[Spells#Special Spells|Special Spells]]
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| !Dereth
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| | [[Locations]]
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| | [[Housing Settlements | Settlements]]
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| !Crafting
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| | [[Alchemy]]
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| | [[Tinkering]]
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| !Lore
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| | [[Lore | Lore - Main Page]]
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| | [[List of Texts | Texts]]
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| | [[Factions]]
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| | [[Current_Story_Arc_-_Monthly_Summary | Current Story Arc Summary]]
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| </div>
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| --[[User:An Adventurer|An Adventurer]] 20:45, 16 February 2008 (CST)
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| That's a website for a guild on Frostfell I believe, it was active only a few months ago. As for the general look, it's probably a custom skin, which is something we could look into but ultimately Gouru would need to install, you can check out how to make skins for this specific engine here [[http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Skins]] and here [[http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Skinning]]. Also, there is a guide [[http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Skin_configuration]] that shows how to setup the logo and such.
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| --[[User:Sanguis|Sanguis]] 10:17, 13 February 2008 (CST)
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| I just found what I guess was a failed AC lore wiki. Although its not being updated, the style of the pages are really nice so I thought I'd put a link here: [http://hallsofknorr.org/wiki/Main_Page Halls of Knorr]
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| It would be so great if we could find who did that wiki and have them fluf up this one to not look like crap.
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| --[[User:An Adventurer|An Adventurer]] 14:15, 8 February 2008 (CST)
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| Bottom for sure, the top one is too disorganized it looks very nasty.
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| --[[User:Sanguis|Sanguis]] 16:43, 31 January 2008 (CST)
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| There, I think I have the topics in a better style now. which do you like better?
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| <div style="-moz-border-radius: 10px;background-color:#f8f8f8; border:2px solid #e0e0e0;width:80%;padding:5px;margin-bottom:10px;margin-left:10%;margin-right:10%;-moz-outline-style: outset;-moz-outline-radius: 10px;-moz-outline-color: #e0e0e0;">
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| == '''Topics''' ==
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| ! Patch Information
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| | [[Recollections | Current Patch]]
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| | [[Children of the Prodigal Lord | Previous Patch]]
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| | [[Patches | All Patches]]
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| | [[History | AC History]]
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| !Game Information
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| | [[General Information]]
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| | [[New Player Guide]]
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| | [[Returning Player Guide]]
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| | [[Plugins]]
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| !Databases
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| | [[Spell Components|Components]]
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| | [[Magic Casters|Casters]]
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| | [[Spells#Special Spells|Special Spells]]
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| !Dereth
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| | [[Tinkering]]
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| | [[Lore | Lore - Main Page]]
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| | [[List of Texts | Texts]]
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| | [[Current_Story_Arc_-_Monthly_Summary | Current Story Arc Summary]]
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| == '''Topics''' ==
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| ! Patch Information
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| | [[Recollections | Current Patch]]
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| | [[Children of the Prodigal Lord | Previous Patch]]
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| | [[Patches | All Patches]]
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| | [[History | AC History]]
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| !Game Information
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| | [[General Information]]
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| | [[New Player Guide]]
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| | [[Returning Player Guide]]
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| | [[Spell Components|Components]]
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| | [[Spells#Special Spells|Special Spells]]
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| !Dereth
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| | [[Current_Story_Arc_-_Monthly_Summary | Current Story Arc Summary]]
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| --[[User:An Adventurer|An Adventurer]] 20:56, 30 January 2008 (CST)
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| Ok I replaced the TOC, I left out the links to welcome and getting started since they are right at the top of the page anyway. I also removed the large link to the patch page and replaced it with a smaller link in the new TOC
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| Also, I changed the Topics section a bit. I didn't like the look of the generic table, so I made the table lines invisible. But when I saw it with no lines at all, it looked a little wierd. It needed the lines to break up the categories, so thats why I put those in.
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| --[[User:An Adventurer|An Adventurer]] 20:07, 30 January 2008 (CST)
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| I like the idea of replacing it, but until then it should be left there for people who might want to skip around.
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| --[[User:Sanguis|Sanguis]] 17:02, 30 January 2008 (CST)
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| I have no idea how to add a logo, I'm assuming its an admin only thing.
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| I'll go ahead and make the changes to the new sections. Thanks.
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| Also about the main page. Should we hide the table of contents? You can hide it by placing <nowiki>__NOTOC__</nowiki> on the page. We could replace it with a more attractive TOC or just leave it out. Thoughts?
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| I think current events should be strictly game only, i.e: live events, patch all kinds of things like that and announcements be wiki-only, archiving would be good for current events, not sure if its really necessary for the wiki but I guess thats up to others to decide as well. Archiving in the AC history page seems to be the best place for archive current events, I agree on that initiative.
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| Also, I think we should consider replacing that image in the top left corner, the SET $wgLogo to the URL path, it looks ugly and it would not be hard to make a nice ACC one. Do we need Gouru to do that? If not then if someone knows how, I would be happy to make the logo for it.
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| --[[User:Sanguis|Sanguis]] 14:44, 29 January 2008 (CST)
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| --[[User:An Adventurer|An Adventurer]] 12:16, 13 December 2007 (CST)
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| I've been sticking news in the announcements section, things posted by the devs and such. I just checked out the current events section, and it had 1 old news story so I stuck all the things from announcements there. Questions:
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| 1. Should we add news to both the announcements and current events? Or should Current events be only for game news, announcements for wiki news, or vice versa?
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| 2. Should we create an archived news section? If so, I think it would be a good addition to the AC history page, which is currently lacking in information. If created we could place tons of old stuff in there like weekly updates and such from before the wiki was created.
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| --[[User:An Adventurer|An Adventurer]] 14:43, 7 December 2007 (CST)
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| I just created a jewelry page, so I replaced the "spells" link under items with jewelry. For now, I've created a link to the spells in the general info page under magic.
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| --[[User:Sanguis|Sanguis]] 21:57, 3 December 2007 (CST)
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| Well done, it looks much better with this structure, I think it's much more accessible now, we should focus on filling those current sections as much as possible once the patch content is filled out.
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| --[[User:An Adventurer|An Adventurer]] 23:11, 1 December 2007 (CST)
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| I just redesigned the front page slightly. First, I have redone the topics table. None of the links from the old version were removed, but a few new ones were added, and I tried to sort them into general categories.
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| I also moved the announcements below the topic and getting started section, just to see what it looks like. I felt that the topic section might be more important to have at the top. Its really simple to reverse if anyone has a problem with it though.
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