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The main issue I struggled with is succinctly indicating which spells stack and which override, while still allowing an arbitrary number of either, especially to accommodate new spells when added. I think the top format looks best, but I'm afraid it would be difficult to add more than 3 or 4 layers of stackablility. I suspect the more common usuage will be to determine how to maximize a skill or attribute rather than categorize according to type and An Adventurer was working on additional spell categories like major cantrips etc. Once we have more spells added too we can get a better handle on the range we'll have to contend with (for example focus has six levels of stacking and still some missing I think). --[[User:Tlosk|Tlosk]] 11:41, 22 August 2008 (CDT)
The main issue I struggled with is succinctly indicating which spells stack and which override, while still allowing an arbitrary number of either, especially to accommodate new spells when added. I think the top format looks best, but I'm afraid it would be difficult to add more than 3 or 4 layers of stackablility. I suspect the more common usuage will be to determine how to maximize a skill or attribute rather than categorize according to type and An Adventurer was working on additional spell categories like major cantrips etc. Once we have more spells added too we can get a better handle on the range we'll have to contend with (for example focus has six levels of stacking and still some missing I think). The reason for seperating the amount added from the spell name was to allow lots of columns where needed so that when rows heighten the numbers are still easy to compare (similar to icons and item names), especially when viewed in a small browser window. --[[User:Tlosk|Tlosk]] 11:41, 22 August 2008 (CDT)


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The main issue I struggled with is succinctly indicating which spells stack and which override, while still allowing an arbitrary number of either, especially to accommodate new spells when added. I think the top format looks best, but I'm afraid it would be difficult to add more than 3 or 4 layers of stackablility. I suspect the more common usuage will be to determine how to maximize a skill or attribute rather than categorize according to type and An Adventurer was working on additional spell categories like major cantrips etc. Once we have more spells added too we can get a better handle on the range we'll have to contend with (for example focus has six levels of stacking and still some missing I think). The reason for seperating the amount added from the spell name was to allow lots of columns where needed so that when rows heighten the numbers are still easy to compare (similar to icons and item names), especially when viewed in a small browser window. --Tlosk 11:41, 22 August 2008 (CDT)


I experimented a bit with the table for Coordination, and this is what I came up with. I flipped the rows and columns around and gave a title to each stacking group. Right aligned the numbers, removed the plus, and gave them a fixed width. Eliminated the border between the number and the spell. And I'm using a template for part of the row, to handle most of the formatting.

Template:Spell Stacking Column 1Template:Spell Stacking Column 1Template:Spell Stacking Column 1Template:Spell Stacking Column 1Template:Spell Stacking Column 1Template:Spell Stacking Column 1Template:Spell Stacking Column 1Template:Spell Stacking Column 1 EmptyTemplate:Spell Stacking Column 1Template:Spell Stacking Column 1Template:Spell Stacking Column 1 EmptyTemplate:Spell Stacking Column 1 EmptyTemplate:Spell Stacking Column 1Template:Spell Stacking Column 1Template:Spell Stacking Column 1 EmptyTemplate:Spell Stacking Column 1 Empty
Regular Buffs Cantrips Housing Item Buffs Rares


Here are some of my rejected ideas. I tried using an alternating background color for columns, but it doesn't look quite right:

Template:Spell Stacking Column 1Template:Spell Stacking Column 2Template:Spell Stacking Column 1Template:Spell Stacking Column 2Template:Spell Stacking Column 1Template:Spell Stacking Column 2Template:Spell Stacking Column 1Template:Spell Stacking Column 2 EmptyTemplate:Spell Stacking Column 1Template:Spell Stacking Column 2Template:Spell Stacking Column 1 EmptyTemplate:Spell Stacking Column 2 EmptyTemplate:Spell Stacking Column 1Template:Spell Stacking Column 2Template:Spell Stacking Column 1 EmptyTemplate:Spell Stacking Column 2 Empty
Regular Buffs Cantrips Housing Item Buffs Rares


This table has too many borders, makes it harder to read:

Regular Buffs Cantrips Housing Item Buffs Rares
50 Brighteyes' Favor 20 Epic Coordination 3 Dark Equilibrium 250 Prodigal Coordination
45 Coordination Other Incantation 15 Major Coordination 2 Grace of the Unicorn
40 Coordination Self VI 10 Moderate Coordination
35 Coordination Self VI 5 Minor Coordination


I tried getting more space between the columns... but there are still too many borders:

Regular Buffs Cantrips Housing Item Buffs Rares
50 Brighteyes' Favor 20 Epic Coordination 3 Dark Equilibrium 250 Prodigal Coordination
45 Coordination Other Incantation 15 Major Coordination 2 Grace of the Unicorn
40 Coordination Self VI 10 Moderate Coordination
35 Coordination Self VI 5 Minor Coordination


Same thing with a dark border between columns:

Regular Buffs Cantrips Housing Item Buffs Rares
50 Brighteyes' Favor 20 Epic Coordination 3 Dark Equilibrium 250 Prodigal Coordination
45 Coordination Other Incantation 15 Major Coordination 2 Grace of the Unicorn
40 Coordination Self VI 10 Moderate Coordination
35 Coordination Self VI 5 Minor Coordination


What do you think of the first one? --Widgeon 13:53, 20 August 2008 (CDT)


After some thought I'm going to just make links to the attribute pages that contribute to skills, so instead of having a spell stacking table that includes all focus and self spells along with spells that increases say war magic, the table on the war magic page will just list the war magic spells and have links to focus and self. This will avoid having to update multiple pages (or having inaccuracies if a page gets missed) when a new attribute spell is added. --Tlosk 07:57, 20 August 2008 (CDT)