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one thought I had was that we could remove the title column completely and instead add a link at the top of the page that says "For a list of titles and their associated quests see the [[Titles]] page. That would allow us to fit either timers or date/patch added. Or, we could merge the title and other rewards into just Rewards. I think that would actually work fairly well.  There are only a handful of quests that would have a rather large row due to this, and they are Prodigal drudge/lugian/olthoi and colosseum champions so far. And there are only a handful of other quests I can think of that would have large rows: Gaerlan, BM quests, Burun Kings. And if we really want to, we can shorten up the Rewards area by saying something like "Gaerlan... '''Items:''' Olthoi Slaying Weapons (See quest for full list), Gaerlan's Robe, Martine's Robe, Martine's Mask"
Anywhere here is a quick sample of the quest table with titles merged into rewards:
{| border = "1" cellpadding = "3"
|-
!Quest Name
! Level Requirements
! Quest Type
! Max XP Reward
!Rewards
|-
!align="left" |[[Acid Axe - Suntik Village|Acid Axe]]<br>AKA Monouga Village
|align="center"| Minimum: None<br>''Suggested: 20''
|align="center"| solo
|align="center"| 25,000
|'''Items:<br>'''[[Acid Axe]]
|-
!align="left" |[[Aerbax's Prodigal Banderling]]<br>AKA Harraag's Dagger
|align="center"| Minimum: 120<br>''Suggested: 150''
|align="center"| Locked Fellowship
|align="center"| 47,100,559
|'''Items:<br>'''[[Shard of Harraag's Dagger]]
|-
!align="left" |[[Aerbax's Prodigal Drudge]]<br>AKA Bonecrunch<br> AKA Drudge Fort
|align="center"| Minimum: None<br>''Suggested: 75''
|align="center"| Group
|align="center"| Main Reward: 132,000,000<br>''20% at 182''<br>Item Reward: 66,000,000<br>''10% at 182''
|'''Items:<br>'''[[Bonecrunch's Hammer]]<br>[[Burnja's Board with Nails]]<br>[[Drudge Scrying Orb]]<br>[[Protective Drudge Charm]]<br>[[Scroll of Chain Flame]]<br>'''Titles:<br>'''Cragstone Knight<br>Cragstone Firefighter<br>Hoogan's Hero
|-
!align="left" |[[Aerbax's Prodigal Lugian]]<br>AKA Prodigal Lugian<br>AKA Shadow Kresovus
|align="center"| Minimum: 150<br>''Suggested: 170''
|align="center"| Solo/Small Group
|align="center"|  162,415,717<br>''50% at 150''
|'''Items:<br>'''[[Balor's Robe]]<br>[[Chorizite Pea]]<br>Upgrades For:<br>[[Bastion of Tukal]]<br>[[Crest of Kings]]<br>[[Helm of the Crag]]<br>[[Scepter of Might]]<br>[[Sleeves of Inexhaustability]]<br>[[Spear of Purity]]<br>[[Staff of Clarity]]<br>'''Titles:<br>'''Guardian of Linvak Tukal
|-
|}
--[[User:An Adventurer|An Adventurer]] 09:04, 8 March 2008 (CST)
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--[[User:Tlosk|Tlosk]] 04:11, 8 March 2008 (CST)That's true, and with the quests listed on each page patch the info is available. Soon as I finish getting the monsters and dungeons listed I'm going to start working on backfilling the quest writeups. I like the idea of maybe adding another list or two but it's a good idea to wait and let the possible formats percolate. Also I'm working on a utility that can take an existing table and let you add/remove columns and add or remove formating markup for an entire column at once. I think it will work but we'll see.
--[[User:Tlosk|Tlosk]] 04:11, 8 March 2008 (CST)That's true, and with the quests listed on each page patch the info is available. Soon as I finish getting the monsters and dungeons listed I'm going to start working on backfilling the quest writeups. I like the idea of maybe adding another list or two but it's a good idea to wait and let the possible formats percolate. Also I'm working on a utility that can take an existing table and let you add/remove columns and add or remove formating markup for an entire column at once. I think it will work but we'll see.



Revision as of 10:04, 8 March 2008

one thought I had was that we could remove the title column completely and instead add a link at the top of the page that says "For a list of titles and their associated quests see the Titles page. That would allow us to fit either timers or date/patch added. Or, we could merge the title and other rewards into just Rewards. I think that would actually work fairly well. There are only a handful of quests that would have a rather large row due to this, and they are Prodigal drudge/lugian/olthoi and colosseum champions so far. And there are only a handful of other quests I can think of that would have large rows: Gaerlan, BM quests, Burun Kings. And if we really want to, we can shorten up the Rewards area by saying something like "Gaerlan... Items: Olthoi Slaying Weapons (See quest for full list), Gaerlan's Robe, Martine's Robe, Martine's Mask"

Anywhere here is a quick sample of the quest table with titles merged into rewards:

Quest Name Level Requirements Quest Type Max XP Reward Rewards
Acid Axe
AKA Monouga Village
Minimum: None
Suggested: 20
solo 25,000 Items:
Acid Axe
Aerbax's Prodigal Banderling
AKA Harraag's Dagger
Minimum: 120
Suggested: 150
Locked Fellowship 47,100,559 Items:
Shard of Harraag's Dagger
Aerbax's Prodigal Drudge
AKA Bonecrunch
AKA Drudge Fort
Minimum: None
Suggested: 75
Group Main Reward: 132,000,000
20% at 182
Item Reward: 66,000,000
10% at 182
Items:
Bonecrunch's Hammer
Burnja's Board with Nails
Drudge Scrying Orb
Protective Drudge Charm
Scroll of Chain Flame
Titles:
Cragstone Knight
Cragstone Firefighter
Hoogan's Hero
Aerbax's Prodigal Lugian
AKA Prodigal Lugian
AKA Shadow Kresovus
Minimum: 150
Suggested: 170
Solo/Small Group 162,415,717
50% at 150
Items:
Balor's Robe
Chorizite Pea
Upgrades For:
Bastion of Tukal
Crest of Kings
Helm of the Crag
Scepter of Might
Sleeves of Inexhaustability
Spear of Purity
Staff of Clarity
Titles:
Guardian of Linvak Tukal

--An Adventurer 09:04, 8 March 2008 (CST)


--Tlosk 04:11, 8 March 2008 (CST)That's true, and with the quests listed on each page patch the info is available. Soon as I finish getting the monsters and dungeons listed I'm going to start working on backfilling the quest writeups. I like the idea of maybe adding another list or two but it's a good idea to wait and let the possible formats percolate. Also I'm working on a utility that can take an existing table and let you add/remove columns and add or remove formating markup for an entire column at once. I think it will work but we'll see.


I agree it'd be useful, but like you said, the quest list is already pretty full. If we were going to add anything else to the quest list I'd want to add timers. But I don't think we should add anything else to the list without first redesigning the whole thing. I think its fine as is - it provides a lot of useful info. If people want to see newer quests they can always go to the patch list. Or we could create a new page/section on the quest page with a simple list of what quests were added on each patch - basically what maggie's quest page looks like.

--An Adventurer 21:51, 7 March 2008 (CST)


--Tlosk 18:07, 7 March 2008 (CST)I know it's already crowded but would it be worthwhile to have a column with the date of the patch it went in? The date rather than the patch name so it would take less space, and then it could be made sortable so that you could sort the quests so that all the recent ones were together to see ones you may have missed doing. Once we get all the quests plugged in the list is going to be pretty massive. Perhaps convert the titles column into a Yes No so it takes up less space? Since usually you're just interested in if the quest gives a title, and you can always click on the quest if you want to know what the actual title is (perhaps have the column heading double as a link to the titles article? Like this [[Titles | Gives<br>Title]]



--An Adventurer 13:07, 5 December 2007 (CST)

I think we may want to redesign the quest table. There is a lot of useful info in it, but it looks very crowded now.

Current Version:

Quest Name Common Name Min
Lvl
Suggested
Lvl
XP Type XP Reward XP Cap Title Reward Other Rewards
Aerbax's Prodigal Lugian Shadow Kresovus 150 150 Group
200 Solo
Percent ??% 162,415,717 Guardian of Linvak Tukal Balor's Robe, upgraded Arm, Mind, and Heart items

Suggestion: Cut some clutter from current version

Quest Name Level Requirements Quest Type Max XP Reward Title Reward Other Rewards
Aerbax's Prodigal Lugian
AKA Shadow Kresovus
Minimum: 150
Suggested: 170
Solo/Small Group 162,415,717 Guardian of Linvak Tukal Balor's Robe, upgraded Arm, Mind, and Heart items

The full info on the exp, such as the percentage and level cap, would go only on the quest summary on the quest's page.